![]() You begin to hear larger patterns, and this depends on the style and your knowledge of it. Otherwise pick some music you want to play and notate them out.Ī possible analogy with learning ear training for those of us without perfect pitch, is like learning sight reading. If you can stand them, Bartok's Micokosmos (spelling?) is wonderful to begin transcribing away from the instrument. To directly answer some of your questions:Ībsolutely begin learning some pieces by ear alone. She was a student of Nadia Boulanger and you will get taught in a similar style.Įxpect lots of rhythmic training, as well as singing modes, and reading in 7 clefs. She is the head of ear training at Vanderbilt University (which is widely respected). I spent three weeks with her doing ear training for 8 hours a day. You will save so much time, and avoid fooling yourself. Yes, you can progress, but having a great teacher makes the world of difference. ![]() In my opinion it is like learning to play piano. I cannot recommend highly enough the work of Marianne Ploger. If you are really, really serious about wanting to have a breakthrough in "ear training" than You can add on transposing, improvisation, and sight reading as being helpful too. Yes, transcribing daily is going to produce the best results, and "sing, sing, sing". If you would have told me 10 years ago I could transcribe what I can easily do now I would have been thrilled. Over the last 10 years I have made so much progress I have become a "convert". As you can imagine I did not do well, and hated it!īut I was still stuck. In fact I would hear whispers like "alight.here we go" after I go called on. I was so bad no one in the class could keep from laughing. When I was in University I was horrible at "ear training". I wanted to reply as this has become a passion of mine. Is it a reasonable goal to be able to identify 4 chord progressions with chords I to viio in about 8 months?Īnother question: Should I have a teacher in aural perpception? Or can I go by myself until I'm able to do all the exercises of the cellphone app? My question is about how long does it usually take to learn to hear chord progressions. Or when I listen to a first inversion major chord, I sing the "mi" in the base, followed by "fa-sol-do", that is the expected movement of the bass for a I-IV-V candence. For example: the major seventh is usualy the IV7, so, when I hear "mi", I know this is it, and I sing in my head "mi-re-do", that is the usual movement this "mi" makes in order to go to I. And when practicing recognizing chords, I noted that it was easier if I sing the usual notes that follow the notes I'm hearing in order to form a IV-V-I cadence, or a ii-V-I cadence. When practicing intervals, I noted that if you solphege the harmonic interval that you hear, when you hear it again, you sing it before you even recognize consciously the notes. Yes, I quickly noted that I had to sing everything. Is it normal? How long does it take to be decent in aural skills? For example, to be able to listen to chord progressions in real music recordings? Is it ok to just stay with the cellphone app? How much ear-training do I have to learn to be a decent pianist? The progress with chord progressions is being very slow. I can't listen to these things in recordings from works I did not study. But I can listen to it just as I study the score. I can listen to an incredible amount of things that I didn't imagine were part of the music I play. It made a huge difference in the way I play. I can identify all intervals within an octave, the main types of chords (including major 7th, minor seventh, half-diminished, etc), 5 notes melodies, and I get about 60% of four triads chord progressions in my cellphone app (I'm just working on the major modes now). But, specifically about ear-training, I'm a bit ansious. I can see that theory is about what you should be able to listen to, ear training is the actual ability to listen to these things, and scales are the physical space where these things happen. They are all more or less the same thing. ![]() ![]() Indeed, I made an enormous progress since I began to study these topics. For about one year I discovered that I had to study scales, arpeggios, theory and ear-training. I never took proper classes, but I can play some quite advanced works, like Chopin's Ballade in G minor, Sonata in Bb Minor (all 4 movements), Revolutionary Etude, Scherzo in B flat minor, Beethoven moonlight sonata (all 3 movements), the first fugue of the WTC, book 1, etc. Hi! I'm 43 years old, and an amateur pianist. ![]()
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